“Actualizando” Francia

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Este bonito mapa muestra cuál candidato ganó en la 1° vuelta en cada uno de los departamentos de Francia. Que da una distribución bastante coherente. Pero no pensemos que ese país está muy dividido. Cómo pueden ver abajo, no hubo polarización

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11 Responses to “Actualizando” Francia

  1. Gonzalo dice:

    Parece que en la Guayana Francesa gano Melenchon y segunda Le Pen. No soy muy conocedor de la realidad e historia guayanense pero al ser territorio sudamericano me resulta interesante como se desarrollo la elección.

  2. claudio Maxl dice:

    Esa distribucion d votos responde a un polarizacion “despolarizada” polarizacion d modelo economicos peeeero despolarizada entre candidatos. A pesar q suene surrealista: tanto Le Pen como Melenchon reivindican el “populismo” (tecnicamente hablando nacionalismo economico) y Macron con Fillon se reparten el polo neoliberal. Vengo insistieno para nuestras elecciones 2017: Polarizacion “despolarizada”: mitad del pais populista, la otra mitad neoliberal, el polo populista monopolizado x Cristina, el polo neoliiberal archipielago d espacion q solo pueden aglutinarse en ballotage, Polarizar modelos es la tarea…..

    http://www.lepoint.fr/editos-du-point/pierre-antoine-delhommais/l-argentine-modele-economique-du-fn-27-03-2015-1916295_493.php

  3. Casiopea dice:

    Lo que salta a la vista de primera es que los dos finalistas vienen de partidos “nuevos”. El gran derrotado es el statu quo. Otra cosa es que esta vez las encuestas estuvieron muy cerca de la realidad.

    • Raúl C. dice:

      Parecería que, como ocurrió en otras latitudes (y de alguna manera aquí), es derrotada la partidocracia tradicional, muy presionada por el capital financiero, y triunfa ‘lo nuevo’: el representante *directo* del capital financiero.
      Es una sensación, nomás.

  4. Capitán Yáñez dice:

    Grosso modo, en todo lo que está del lado germano y latino ganó Le Pen (que dicho sea de paso sacó 1.200.000 votos más que en 2012).
    Interesante el bonito mapa.

  5. Permitame disentir Casiopea. Creo que el Señor Macron como buen ex cuadro del grupo Roschild es en realidad el candidato del Status Quo. La prueba esta en las felicitaciones recibidas del “mercado” y de Bruselas. Para mas informacion le dejo este link de un intelectual y periodista Frances que me resulta muy interesante.
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article196101.html

    • guillermo dice:

      Realmente… Este ‘intelectual y periodista’ puede ser que escriba, pero si piensa, perdió la brújula. Su argumento de que como el gran capital siempre ha apoyado al fascismo, y como ahora no apoya a Marine Le Pen, ella no es fascista, es admirable por lo descarado y deja boquiabierto porque solo lo puede alegar alguien que no sabe nada, o es tan hijo de puta que cualquier argumento es usable, por absurdo que sea. El gran capital apoyó al fascismo en Italia y Alemania (y menos conspicuamente en Francia) en los 20s y 30s porque su terror era el peligro de que el comunismo tomara el poder, cosa muy posible ante el colapso de los partidos democráticos en los dos países, y perdían todo. En USA o Inglaterra , donde el riesgo del comunismo tomando el poder era mucho menor, por supuesto que hubo algunos casos aislados de ricos que apoyaban al fascismo, pero fueron pocos. La extrema derecha europea post-guerra no ha sido nunca financiada por el establishment comercial-financiero.

      Tratar de negar el fascismo intrínseco de Marine Le Pen es delirante. Su padre es un neo-fascista desde sus comienzos, y uno de sus temas iniciales en política fue la exageración del Holocausto por los judíos y la reivindicación del colaboracionismo en Francia durante la guerra. Lo que sigue es de su biografía en Wikipedia:

      En 1962… Le Pen creó SERP (Société d’études et de relations publiques), compañia involucrada en la industria de la música… La firma fue sancionada en 1968 por ‘elogiar los crímenes de guerra y la colaboración’ tras difundir marchas y canciones del Tercer Reich.

      En 1972, Le Pen fundó el Front National, junto con el ex-OAS Jacques Bompard, el ex-colaborador nazi Roland Gaucher, y otros nostálgicos de Vichy, neo-Nazis, y Católicos ultra.

      Esa es la cultura política en que se formó Marine Le Pen, y en la que participó activamente desde su juventud. Sólo hace falta oirla para apreciar que es muy inteligente (para nada incompatible con fascismo), y hace tiempo se dió cuenta que, para pegar el salto y salir de minoría insignificante había que bajar el volumen con la conexión Vichy/fascismo, cosa que ha hecho. Pero si una mujer se gana la vida haciendo de prostituta en bar de hotel caro, a donde va con pollera con tajo y medias de red, y el management le llama la atencion, y a la semana siguiente aparece vestida con traje negro y cadenita con cruz, habrá cambiado el estilo, pero no el propósito.

      • Juan el Bautismo dice:

        “It is not possible to form a just judgment of a public figure who has attained the enormous dimensions of Adolf Hitler until his life work as a whole is before us. Although no subsequent political action can condone wrong deeds, history is replete with examples of men who have risen to power by employing stern, grim, and even frightful methods, but who, nevertheless, when their life is revealed as a whole, have been regarded as great figures whose lives have enriched the story of mankind. So may it be with Hitler.
        Such a final view is not vouchsafed to us today. We cannot tell whether Hitler will be the man who will once again let loose upon the world another war in which modern civilization will irretrievably succumb, or whether he will go down in history as the man who restored honor and peace of mind to the great Germanic nation and brought them back serene, helpful and strong to the European family circle. It is on this mystery of the future that history will pronounce Hitler either a monster or a hero. It is this which will determine whether he will rank in Valhalla with Pericles, with Augustus, and with Washington, or welter in the inferno of human scorn with Attila and Tamerlane. It is enough to say that both possibilities are open at the present moment.”

        “When Hitler began, Germany lay prostrate at the feet of the Allies. He may yet see the day when what is left of Europe will be prostrate at the feet of Germany. Whatever else may be thought about these exploits, they are certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world.”

        “Those who have met Herr Hitler face to face in public business or on social terms have found a highly competent, cool, well-informed functionary with an agreeable manner, a disarming smile, and few have been unaffected by a subtle personal magnetism. Nor is this impression merely the dazzle of power. He exerted it on his companions at every stage in his struggle, even when his fortunes were in the lowest depths. Thus the world lives on hopes that the worst is over, and that we may yet live to see Hitler a gentler figure in a happier age.”

        Winston Churchill, 1935

      • guillermo dice:

        Provocás una mezcla de asco y lastima. Asco por tu bajeza de citar un artículo muy largo, con un arco de narrativa de claro a oscuro, citando solo la parte que viene bien a tu intencion de pintar a Churchill como pro-Hitler. Cosa que solo a alguien que no sabe nada fuera de sus prejuicios, resentimientos y odios, se le puede ocurrir. El articulo (que es mas conocido que el pan, asi que realmente hay que ser muy idiota o muy limitado por distancia, pobreza de informacion, y la naturaleza para citarlo parcialmente y cambiarle el propósito) fue escrito en 1935, cuando Hitler habia hecho barbaridades, mencionadas en el articulo, pero tambien cosas buenas, y eso es lo que Churchill pinta, aunque deja bien claro para quien lee todo el artículo lo que piensa de las barbaridades.

        De todos modos, tenés alguna idea de lo patético que sos? Esto es un intercambio sobre Marine Le Pen. Porque no entendés nada fuera de tu odio a lo sos y tus limitaciones, pensás que si “probás” que Churchill era Nazi me descalificás, o al menos me avergonzás haciendome ver la ‘verdad’ de donde vivo. Sos lamentable. Tratá de hacerte un poquito mejor, en serio.

        Lo que sigue son partes del artículo que J el B cortó. Al final está el link al texto completo.

        Such a final view is not vouchsafed to us to-day. We cannot tell whether Hitler will be the man who will once again let loose upon the world another war in which civilization will irretrievably succumb, or whether he will go down in history as the man who restored honour and peace of mind to the great Germanic nation and brought them back serene, helpful and strong, to the European family circle.
        It is on this mystery of the future that history will pronounce Hitler either a monster or a hero. It is this which will determine whether he will rank in Valhalla with Pericles, with Augustus, and with Washington, or welter in the inferno of human scorn with Attila and Tamerlane. It is enough to say that both possibilities arc open at the present moment. If, because the story is unfinished, because, indeed, its most fateful chapters have yet to be written, we are forced to dwell upon the dark side of his work and creed, we must never forget nor cease to hope for the bright alternative.

        Hitler’s success, and, indeed, his survival as a political force, would not have been possible but for the lethargy and folly of the French and British Governments since the War, and especially in the last three years. No sincere attempt was made to come to terms with the various moderate governments of Ger¬many, which existed upon a parlia¬mentary system. For a long time the French pursued the absurd delusion that they could extract vast indemnities from the Germans in order to com¬pensate them for the devastation of the War.
        Figures of reparation payments were adopted, not only by the French but by the British, which had no relation whatever to any process which exists, or could ever be de¬vised, of transferring wealth from one community to a other. To enforce submission to these senseless demands, French armies actu¬ally reoccupied the Ruhr in 1923. To recover even a tenth of what was origin¬ally demanded, an inter-allied board, presided over by an able American, supervised the inter¬nal finances of Ger¬many for several years, thus renew¬ing and perpetuating the utmost bitterness in the minds of the defeated nation. In fact, nothing was gained at the cost of all this friction; for, although the Allies ex¬tracted about one thousand million pounds’ worth of assets from the Germans, the United States, and to a lesser extent Great Britain, lent Germany at the same time over two thousand millions more than she had paid. Yet, while the Allies poured their wealth into Germany to build her up and revive her life and industry, the only results were an increasing resentment and the loss of their money. Even while Germany was receiv¬ing great benefits by the loans which were made to her, Hitler’s movement gained each week life and force from irritation at Allied interference.
        I have always laid down the doctrine that the redress of the grievances of the vanquished should precede the disarma¬ment of the victors. Little was done to redress the grievances of the treaties of Versailles and Trianon. Hitler in his campaign could point continually to a number of minor anomalies and racial injustices in the territorial arrangements of Europe, which fed the fires on which he lived.
        At the same time, the English pacifists, aided from a safe distance by their American prototypes, forced the process of dis¬armament into the utmost prominence.
        Year after year, with¬out the slightest re¬gard to the realities of the world, the Disarmament Com¬mission explored in numerable schemes for reducing the armaments of the Allies, none of which was pursued with any sincerity by any country except Great Britain. The United States, while preaching disarmament, continued to make enormous developments in her army, navy, and air force. France, deprived of the promised United States guarantee and confronted with the gradual revival of Germany with its tremendous military population, naturally refused to reduce her defences below the danger point. Italy, for other reasons, increased her armaments. Only England cut her defences by land and sea far below the safety level, and appeared quite unconscious of the new peril which was developing in the air.
        …..
        Meanwhile, the Germans, principally under the Brüning Govern¬ment, began their great plans to regain their armed power. These were pressed forward by every channel. The air-sport and commercial aviation became a mere cloak behind which a tremendous organization for the purposes of air war was spread over every part of Germany. The German general staff, forbidden by the treaty, grew year by year to an enormous size under the guise of the State guidance of industry. All the factories of Germany were prepared in incredible detail to be turned to war production.
        These preparations, although assiduously con¬cealed, were nevertheless known to the intelligence departments both of France and Great Britain. But nowhere in either of these governments was there the commanding power either to call Germany to a halt or to endeavour to revise the treaties. The former course would have been quite safe and easy, at any rate, until the end of 1931, but at that time Mr. MacDonald and his colleagues were still con¬tenting themselves with uttering high-sounding platitudes upon the blessings of peace and gain¬ing the applause of well-meaning but ill-informed majorities throughout our island, liven as late as 1932 the greatest pressure was put upon France to reduce her armed strength, when at the same time the French knew that immense preparations were going forward in all parts of Germany. I explained and exposed the follies of this process repeatedly and in detail in the House of Commons, but nobody paid the slightest attention. Eventually, all that came out of the Disarmament con¬ferences was the Rearmament of Ger¬many.
        While all these formidable transforma¬tions were occurring in Europe, Corporal Hitler was fighting his long, wearing battle for the German heart. The story of that struggle cannot be read without admiration for the courage, the single- mindedness, and the personal force which enabled him to challenge, defy, overcome, or conciliate all the authorities or resist¬ances which barred his path. He, and the ever-increasing legions who worked with him, certainly showed at this time, in their patriotic ardour and love of country, that there was nothing they would not do or dare, no sacrifice of life, limb or liberty that they would not make themselves or inflict upon their opponents.
        Here is no place to tell that tale. Its main episodes arc well known. The riotous meetings, the bloody fusillade at Munich, Hitler’s imprisonment, his various arrests and trials, his conflict with Hindenburg, his electoral campaign, von Papen’s tergiversation, Hitler’s con¬quest of Hindenburg, Hindenburg’s desertion of Brüning—all these were the milestones upon that indomitable march which carried the Austrian cor¬poral to the life-dictatorship of the entire German nation of nearly seventy million souls, constituting the most industrious, capable, fierce, militaristic and resentful race in the world.
        Hitler arrived at supreme power in Germany at the head of a national socialist movement which wiped out all the states and old kingdoms of Germany and fused them into one whole. At the same time, Nazidom suppressed and obliterated by force, wherever necessary, all other parties in the State.

        Strand Magazine Nov 1935, Churchill: The Truth about Hitler, pages 16-17
        At this very moment he found that the secret organization of German industry and aviation; which the German general staff and latterly the Brüning Government had built up, was in fact absolutely ready to be put into operation.
        So far, no one had dared to take this step. Fear that the Allies would intervene and nip everything in the bud had restrained them. But Hitler had risen by violence and passion; he was surrounded by men as ruthless as he. It is probable that, when he overthrew the existing constitutional Government of Germany, he did not know how far they had prepared the ground for his action, certainly he has never done them the justice to recognize their contribution to his success. He even drove the patriotic Brüning, under threat of murder, from German soil.
        The fact remains that all he and Goering had to do was to give the signal for the most gigantic process of secret rearmament that has ever taken place. He had long proclaimed that, if he came into power, he would do two things that no one else could do for Germany but himself. First, he would restore Germany to the height of her power in Europe, and secondly, he would cure the cruel unemployment that afflicted the people.
        His methods are now apparent. Germany was to recover her place in Europe by rearming, and the Germans were to be largely freed from the curse of unemployment by being set to work on making the armaments and other military prepara¬tions. Thus from the year 1933 onwards the whole available energies of Germany were directed to preparations for war, not only in the factories, in the barracks, and on the aviation grounds, but in the schools, the colleges, and almost in the nursery, by every resource of State power and modem propaganda ; and the preparation and education of the whole people for war-readiness was undertaken.
        It was not till 1935 that the full terror of this revelation broke upon the careless and imprudent world, and Hitler, casting aside concealment, sprang forward armed to the teeth, with his munition factories roaring night and day, his aeroplane squadrons forming in ceaseless suc¬cession, his submarine crews exer¬cising in the Baltic, and his armed hosts tramping the barrack squares from one end of the broad Reich to the other. hat is where we are to-day, and the achievement by which the tables, have been completely turned upon the complacent, feckless, and purblind victors de¬serves to be reckoned a prodigy in the history of the world, and a prodigy which is inseparable from the personal exertions and lifethrust of a single man.
        It is certainly not strange that everyone should want to know „the truth about Hitler.” What will he do with the tremendous powers already in his grasp and perfecting themselves week by week ? If, as I have said, we look only at the past, which is all we have to judge by, we must indeed feel anxious. Hitherto, Hitler’s Triumphant Career has been borne onwards, not only by a passionate love of Germany, but by currents of hatred so intense as to sear the souls of those who swim upon them.

        Hatred of the French is the first of these currents, and we have only to read Herr Hitler’s book,Mein Kampf, to see that the French are not the only foreign nation against whom the anger of rearmed Germany may be turned.
        But the internal stresses are even more striking. The Jews, supposed to have contributed, by a disloyal and pacifist influence, to the collapse of Germany at the end of the Great War, were also deemed to be the main prop of communism and the authors of defeatist doctrines in every form. There¬fore , the Jews of Germany, a community numbered by many hundreds of thousands, were to be stripped of all power, driven from every position in public and social life, expelled from the professions, silenced in the Press, and declared a foul and odious race.
        The twentieth century has witnessed with surprise, not merely the promulgation of these ferocious doctrines, but their being enforced with brutal vigour by the government and by the populace. No past services, no proved patriotism, even wounds sustained in war, could procure immunity for persons whose only crime was that their parents had brought them into the world. Every kind of persecution, grave or petty, upon the world-famous scientists, writers, and composers at the top to the wretched little Jewish children in the national schools, was practised, was glorified, and is still being practised and glorified.
        A similar proscription fell upon socialists and communists of every hue. The Trade Unionists and liberal intelligentsia are equally smitten. The slightest criticism is an offence against the State. The courts of justice, though allowed to function in ordinary cases, are superseded for every form of political offence by so-called people’s courts com¬posed of ardent Nazis. Side by side with the training grounds of the new armies and the great aerodromes, the concentration camps pock-mark the German soil. In these thousands of Germans are coerced and cowed into submission to the irresistible power of the Totalitarian State.
        The hatred of the Jews led by a logical transi¬tion to an attack upon the historic basis of Christianity. Thus the conflict broadened swiftly, and Catholic priests and Protestant pastors fell under the ban of what is becoming the new religion of the German peoples, namely, the wor¬ship of Germany under the symbols of the old gods of Nordic paganism. Here also is where we stand to-day.
        What manner of man is this grim figure who has performed these superb toils and loosed these frightful evils? Does he still share the passions he has evoked ? Does he, in the full sunlight of worldly success, at the head of the great nation he has raised from the dust, still feel wracked by the hatreds and antagonisms of his desperate struggle: or will they be discarded like the armour and the cruel weapons of strife under the mellowing in¬fluences of success? Evidently a burning question for men of all nations! Those who have met Herr Hitler face to face in public business or on social terms have found a highly competent, cool, well- informed functionary with an agreeable manner, a disarming smile, and few have been unaffected by a subtle personal magnetism. Nor is this impres¬sion merely the dazzle of power. He exerted it on his companions at every stage in his struggle, even when his fortunes were in the lowest depths. Thus the world lives on hopes that the worst is over and that we may yet live to see Hitler a gentler figure in a happier age.

        Para quien quiera leer el artículo completo:

        https://hansberndulrich.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/the-truth-about-hitler-churchills-famous-article-in-strand-magazine-nov-1935/

      • Juan el Bautismo dice:

        Churchill y los fascistas extrínsecos del capital ya demostraron como se equivocan. Para que vas a repetir el error.
        Sencillo. No tiene sentido venir a hacerte el necio sofisticado

      • guillermo dice:

        Si, por supuesto. En este artículo (y en lo que hizo el resto de su vida) Churchill dejó bien claro como se “equivocó” respecto al fascismo.

        Sobre esa base, lástima para Argentina que vos y el resto de tus correligionarios tengan razón siempre y no se “equivoquen” nunca en sus soluciones.

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